Subjects:
[10/Feb/2004:21:35:32] <Father Phillip> rhbilliot: Hi Father, i
need to find out about the recieving of ashes on the forehead does it mean from
ashes from the ground to ashes we shall return or does it mean when we recieve
them our sins are absolved?
[10/Feb/2004:21:35:53] <Father Phillip> hey
[10/Feb/2004:21:36:02] <Father Phillip> it means, mostly, the former
[10/Feb/2004:21:36:08] <Father Phillip> but it doesn't mean the
latter
[10/Feb/2004:21:36:20] <Father Phillip> receiving ashes is called
a "sacramental"
[10/Feb/2004:21:36:42] <Father Phillip> and it does NOT have the
effect of absolving our sins
[10/Feb/2004:21:36:48] <Father Phillip> it's just a symbol
[10/Feb/2004:21:36:52] <Father Phillip> mostly of what you said
[10/Feb/2004:21:37:07] <Father Phillip> but also of the "grimniness"
of sin
[10/Feb/2004:21:37:11] <Father Phillip> make sense?
[10/Feb/2004:21:37:34] <Father Phillip> rhbilliot: yes, thanks
Father
[10/Feb/2004:21:37:41] <Father Phillip> sure, delighted to try
to hellp
[10/Feb/2004:21:37:46] <Father Phillip> it's what we're here for!
[10/Feb/2004:21:37:47] <Father Phillip> :-)
[10/Feb/2004:21:37:58] <Father Phillip> rhbilliot: great
[10/Feb/2004:21:40:35] <Father
Phillip> rhbilliot: Father what is the churches stand on the rapture?
[10/Feb/2004:21:40:53] <Father Phillip> well, the Church really
doesn't have a "stand" on the idea of the rapture
[10/Feb/2004:21:41:12] <Father Phillip> i suppose as Catholics
it's ok to believe in that concept
[10/Feb/2004:21:41:39] <Father Phillip> but it's certainly NOT
an official teaching of the Catholic Church that coincides with what i've popularly
heard talked about as the rapture
[10/Feb/2004:21:41:46] <Father Phillip> rhbilliot: i think it was
man made and is unbiblical
[10/Feb/2004:21:42:09] <Father Phillip> while i'd probably prefer
to say "human constructed" -- i tend to agree with you
[10/Feb/2004:21:42:26] <Father Phillip> we can read most anything
we want into the Scripture
[10/Feb/2004:21:42:57] <Father Phillip> and i think that a lot
of faithful good people have needed to believe that the Scripture says something
that they can construe as the rapture
[10/Feb/2004:21:43:20] <Father Phillip> but i don't really see
the usually cited Scriptures as saying what i hear talked about as the rapture
[10/Feb/2004:21:44:38] <Father Phillip> rhbilliot: right i hear
these other religions speak of post or pre tribulation and certain people being
raptured up and the rest being left behind to suffer when they say one in every
three will be raptured up
[10/Feb/2004:21:44:54] <Father Phillip> yep
[10/Feb/2004:21:45:03] <Father Phillip> i've heard a lot of those
kinds of things over the years
[10/Feb/2004:21:45:13] <Father Phillip> and it's ok, i guess, for
them to believe that if they need to
[10/Feb/2004:21:45:22] <Father Phillip> but it's not what we as
Catholics believe
[10/Feb/2004:21:45:32]
<Father Phillip> one correction, though
[10/Feb/2004:21:45:49] <Father Phillip> the people who tend to
say those kinds of things are NOT "other religions"
[10/Feb/2004:21:45:57] <Father Phillip> they are other kinds of
Christians
[10/Feb/2004:21:46:02] <Father Phillip> but not other religions
[10/Feb/2004:21:46:12] <Father Phillip> other religions are hindu,
buddhist
[10/Feb/2004:21:46:14] <Father Phillip> stuff like that
[10/Feb/2004:21:46:18] <Father Phillip> understand?
[10/Feb/2004:21:46:31] <Father Phillip> rhbilliot: sorry your right
my mistake
[10/Feb/2004:21:46:36] <Father Phillip> no apologies needed
[10/Feb/2004:21:46:46] <Father Phillip> we just need to be careful
with our use of words
[10/Feb/2004:21:47:09] <Father Phillip> don't want people to get
the idea that we Catholics think Protestants or whatever aren't really Christians
[10/Feb/2004:21:47:17] <Father Phillip> because we believe that
they definitely are!
[10/Feb/2004:21:47:18] <Father Phillip> :-)
[10/Feb/2004:21:48:03] <Father Phillip> rhbilliot: i just get tired
of other christian denominations saying Catholics are anything but christians
in their beliefs
[10/Feb/2004:21:48:23] <Father Phillip> it's an opportunity for
you and me (and all other Catholics) to grow in grace
[10/Feb/2004:21:48:24] <Father Phillip> :-)
[10/Feb/2004:21:48:33] <Father Phillip> listen to the Gospel this
Sunday at Mass
[10/Feb/2004:21:48:39] <Father Phillip> Jesus talks about this
idea
[10/Feb/2004:21:49:01] <Father Phillip> you are blessed when people
speak ill of you on account of the Gospel
[10/Feb/2004:21:49:05] <Father Phillip> that kind of thing
[10/Feb/2004:21:49:18] <Father Phillip> we just don't want to fall
into the small-minded trap
[10/Feb/2004:21:49:37] <Father Phillip> that some of our sisters
and brothers in Christ may have gotten into in the ways they perceive us!
[10/Feb/2004:21:49:42] <Father Phillip> rhbilliot: i understand
and agree
[10/Feb/2004:21:49:46] <Father Phillip> good person!
[10/Feb/2004:21:49:47] <Father Phillip> :-)
[10/Feb/2004:21:50:45] <Father Phillip> rhbilliot: thanks again
Father and God bless and keep up the good work
[10/Feb/2004:21:50:50] <Father Phillip> please say a prayer for
me
[10/Feb/2004:21:50:58] <Father Phillip> i need all the prayers
i can get!
[10/Feb/2004:21:51:01] <Father Phillip> be well!
[10/Feb/2004:21:51:03] <Father Phillip> and blessings!
[10/Feb/2004:21:51:48] <Father Phillip> rhbilliot: yes Father i
will and always do for the priesthood especially in these troulbed times
[10/Feb/2004:21:52:01] <Father Phillip> yep, there are some real
troubles out ther
[10/Feb/2004:21:52:02] <Father Phillip> e
[10/Feb/2004:21:52:03] <Father Phillip> but then
[10/Feb/2004:21:52:10] <Father Phillip> there are wonderful folks
like YOU
[10/Feb/2004:21:52:18] <Father Phillip> and that makes up for all
the troubles
[10/Feb/2004:21:52:22] <Father Phillip> cya!
[10/Feb/2004:21:53:22] <Father Phillip> rhbilliot: Thanks Father
but you and others in the preisthood are my true heros and inspiration
[10/Feb/2004:21:53:24] <Father Phillip> hey,
[10/Feb/2004:21:53:27] <Father Phillip> get outta here!
[10/Feb/2004:21:53:29] <Father Phillip> :-)
[10/Feb/2004:21:53:32] <Father Phillip> (but thanks!)
[10/Feb/2004:21:54:02] <Father Phillip> rhbilliot: sure Father
goodnight